{"id":870731,"date":"2025-09-05T21:13:03","date_gmt":"2025-09-06T02:13:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/05\/rfk-jr-says-he-doesnt-know-how-many-people-died-of-covid\/"},"modified":"2025-09-05T21:13:03","modified_gmt":"2025-09-06T02:13:03","slug":"rfk-jr-says-he-doesnt-know-how-many-people-died-of-covid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/05\/rfk-jr-says-he-doesnt-know-how-many-people-died-of-covid\/","title":{"rendered":"RFK Jr. Says He Doesn&#8217;t Know How Many People Died Of COVID"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>\n<h2>Topline<\/h2>\n<p>Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he doesn\u2019t know how many people died of COVID-19, blaming the Biden administration for keeping what he said is faulty data\u2014though the World Health Organization tracks the global tally in real-time on its website.  <\/p>\n<figure role=\"presentation\">\n<div>\n<p><span>Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. appears before the Senate Finance Committee at the Dirksen Senate Office Building on September 04, 2025 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Andrew Harnik\/Getty Images)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><small>Getty Images<\/small><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h2>Key Facts<\/h2>\n<div>\n<p>Kennedy told Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va. in a contentious Senate hearing Thursday, \u201cI don\u2019t know how many died,\u201d alleging \u201cI don\u2019t think anybody knows, because there was so much data chaos coming out of the CDC . . . I would like to see the data and talk about the data,\u201d calling the Biden administration\u2019s statistics \u201cdismal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The World Health Organization, however, publishes data on its <a href=\"https:\/\/data.who.int\/dashboards\/covid19\/deaths\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"https:\/\/data.who.int\/dashboards\/covid19\/deaths\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/data.who.int\/dashboards\/covid19\/deaths\" aria-label=\"website\">website<\/a> in real-time tracking both the global and national death tolls, with figures showing 7.1 million reported deaths globally and 1.2 million in the U.S. <\/p>\n<p>Trump signed an executive order earlier this year instructing the CDC to stop working with the WHO, a United Nations Agency, accusing it of \u201cmishandling the COVID-19 pandemic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Kennedy renewed his criticism of the CDC during Thursday\u2019s hearing before the Senate Finance Committee, telling lawmakers \u201cwe are the sickest country in the world, that\u2019s why we have to fire people at the CDC. They did not do their job. This was their job to keep us healthy,\u201d referring to the termination of CDC director Susan Monarez earlier this month that led to resignations of several top officials.<\/p>\n<p>Kennedy engaged in several tense disputes during the hearing, including with Republican Sens. Bill Cassidy, La., and John Barrasso, Wyo., who are both physicians, with Cassidy telling Kennedy the federal government was \u201ceffectively\u201d denying people vaccines as some pharmacies have limited access amid confusion surrounding new health regulations. <\/p>\n<p>Barrasso, meanwhile, said he has grown \u201cdeeply concerned\u201d since Kennedy\u2019s confirmation hearing, where, Barrasso reminded Kennedy, he \u201cpromised to uphold the highest standards for vaccines.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2>Tangent<\/h2>\n<p>Kennedy denied claims made by Monarez in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/robert-f-kennedy-jr-the-cdc-and-me-b4ca2eaa?gaa_at=eafs&#038;gaa_n=ASWzDAjnIbpgs7VjeVJv8tQDvzCTfJETCBBumz22GIPZ2E_0YsvPoSzdcAlZWug5mTY%3D&#038;gaa_ts=68b9a6e9&#038;gaa_sig=99OZCuuuy5Fs2cU3GEHEEc7qUgro-Poa1U89ZG-_w_PwUYlL8BpXp698WEY0EEYPbu9SRr-FuUyXXYnEFYeC2Q%3D%3D\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/robert-f-kennedy-jr-the-cdc-and-me-b4ca2eaa?gaa_at=eafs&#038;gaa_n=ASWzDAjnIbpgs7VjeVJv8tQDvzCTfJETCBBumz22GIPZ2E_0YsvPoSzdcAlZWug5mTY%3D&#038;gaa_ts=68b9a6e9&#038;gaa_sig=99OZCuuuy5Fs2cU3GEHEEc7qUgro-Poa1U89ZG-_w_PwUYlL8BpXp698WEY0EEYPbu9SRr-FuUyXXYnEFYeC2Q%3D%3D\" data-ga-track=\"ExternalLink:https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/robert-f-kennedy-jr-the-cdc-and-me-b4ca2eaa?gaa_at=eafs&#038;gaa_n=ASWzDAjnIbpgs7VjeVJv8tQDvzCTfJETCBBumz22GIPZ2E_0YsvPoSzdcAlZWug5mTY%3D&#038;gaa_ts=68b9a6e9&#038;gaa_sig=99OZCuuuy5Fs2cU3GEHEEc7qUgro-Poa1U89ZG-_w_PwUYlL8BpXp698WEY0EEYPbu9SRr-FuUyXXYnEFYeC2Q%3D%3D\" aria-label=\"Wall Street Journal op-ed\">Wall Street Journal op-ed<\/a> published shortly before his hearing began that he pressured her to pre-approve vaccine recommendations made by an advisory panel Kennedy controversially replaced with some members who have publicly expressed doubts about the efficacy of some widely accredited vaccines. \u201cI did not say that to her, and I never had a private meeting with her,\u201d he told senators. <\/p>\n<h2>Key Background<\/h2>\n<p>Kennedy\u2019s hearing comes amid heightened scrutiny of his controversial public statements expressing skepticism of vaccines and his handling of federal vaccine guidelines that ultimately led to Monarez\u2019s termination and the resignations of several high-ranking CDC officials last month. At the same time, COVID cases are on the rise and tightened vaccine guidelines under Kennedy have led some pharmacies to drastically curb vaccine availability. The CDC\u2019s chief medical officer Debra Houry, along with director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases Daniel Jernigan, and director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Demetre Daskalakis resigned following Monarez\u2019s firing, with all three citing concerns surrounding the agency\u2019s handling of vaccines. The shakeup led some Republicans, including Cassidy and Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, to publicly express concerns about the exodus, with Collins warning the officials \u201cwill not be easily replaceable\u201d and \u201care respected worldwide.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Further Reading<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/saradorn\/2025\/08\/29\/trump-facing-gop-criticism-on-vaccines-as-theyre-harder-to-get-and-covid-resurges\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/saradorn\/2025\/08\/29\/trump-facing-gop-criticism-on-vaccines-as-theyre-harder-to-get-and-covid-resurges\/\" data-ga-track=\"InternalLink:https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/saradorn\/2025\/08\/29\/trump-facing-gop-criticism-on-vaccines-as-theyre-harder-to-get-and-covid-resurges\/\" aria-label=\"Trump Facing GOP Criticism On Vaccines As They're Harder To Get\u2014And Covid Resurges\">Trump Facing GOP Criticism On Vaccines As They&#8217;re Harder To Get\u2014And Covid Resurges<\/a> (Forbes)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/antoniopequenoiv\/2025\/08\/28\/cdc-turmoil-white-house-reportedly-taps-new-director-amid-staffer-walkout\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/antoniopequenoiv\/2025\/08\/28\/cdc-turmoil-white-house-reportedly-taps-new-director-amid-staffer-walkout\/\" data-ga-track=\"InternalLink:https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/antoniopequenoiv\/2025\/08\/28\/cdc-turmoil-white-house-reportedly-taps-new-director-amid-staffer-walkout\/\" aria-label=\"CDC Turmoil: White House Reportedly Taps New Director Amid Staffer Walkout\">CDC Turmoil: White House Reportedly Taps New Director Amid Staffer Walkout<\/a> (Forbes)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/mollybohannon\/2025\/01\/27\/cdc-reportedly-ordered-to-stop-working-with-who-immediately\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/mollybohannon\/2025\/01\/27\/cdc-reportedly-ordered-to-stop-working-with-who-immediately\/\" data-ga-track=\"InternalLink:https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/mollybohannon\/2025\/01\/27\/cdc-reportedly-ordered-to-stop-working-with-who-immediately\/\" aria-label=\"CDC Ordered To Stop Working With WHO Immediately\">CDC Ordered To Stop Working With WHO Immediately<\/a> (Forbes)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/saradorn\/2025\/09\/04\/rfk-jr-doesnt-know-how-many-people-died-of-covid-he-tells-senate-committee\/\" class=\"button purchase\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Read More<\/a><br \/>\n Sara Dorn<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Topline Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he doesn\u2019t know how many people died of COVID-19, blaming the Biden administration for keeping what he said is faulty data\u2014though the World Health Organization tracks the global tally in real-time on its website. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. appears before<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":870732,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2346,287],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-870731","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-doesnt","8":"category-people"},"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/870731","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=870731"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/870731\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/870732"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=870731"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=870731"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=870731"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}