{"id":853171,"date":"2025-06-03T19:11:58","date_gmt":"2025-06-04T00:11:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/2025\/06\/03\/keep-your-mind-on-the-music-i-never-thought-of-myself-as-a-woman-musician-at-all-but-a-guitarist-and-then-a-bass-player-studio-bass-icon-carol-kaye-on-why-it-is\/"},"modified":"2025-06-03T19:11:58","modified_gmt":"2025-06-04T00:11:58","slug":"keep-your-mind-on-the-music-i-never-thought-of-myself-as-a-woman-musician-at-all-but-a-guitarist-and-then-a-bass-player-studio-bass-icon-carol-kaye-on-why-it-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/2025\/06\/03\/keep-your-mind-on-the-music-i-never-thought-of-myself-as-a-woman-musician-at-all-but-a-guitarist-and-then-a-bass-player-studio-bass-icon-carol-kaye-on-why-it-is\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cKeep your mind on the music. I never thought of myself as a \u2018woman\u2019 musician at all, but a guitarist and then a bass player\u201d: Studio bass icon Carol Kaye on why it is not about who you are, but how and what you play that defines you as a musician"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-widget-type=\"contentparsed\" id=\"content\">\n<section>\n<div>\n<div>\n<picture data-new-v2-image=\"true\"><source type=\"image\/webp\"  ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/uhjfg2mDUP5bFnhiKJfaDc.jpg\" alt=\"Carol Kaye playing bass guitar in a Los Angeles recording studio, early 1960&#039;s\"   data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/uhjfg2mDUP5bFnhiKJfaDc.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/uhjfg2mDUP5bFnhiKJfaDc.jpg\" data-pin-nopin=\"true\" fetchpriority=\"high\">\n<\/picture>\n<\/div><figcaption>\n<span>(Image credit: Getty Images)<\/span><br \/>\n<\/figcaption><\/div>\n<div id=\"article-body\">\n<p>When is a bass player not a bass player? When she&#8217;s a \u2018female bass player\u2019, a term which makes great bassists like Tina Weymouth, Melissa Auf Der Maur, Kim Deal, Kim Gordon, Gail Ann Dorsey, and recent <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/music-industry\/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-2025\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/music-industry\/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductees-2025\">Rock &#038; Roll Hall of Fame inductee<\/a> Carol Kaye roll their eyes in despair.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been nearly six decades since Kaye made her debut on the bass and five since Weymouth first played on the New York punk scene (where she recalled crowds staring at her as if she was, as she put it, \u201ca performing monkey\u201d) and we still can&#8217;t quite contain our surprise when a person of the female persuasion wields a <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/best-bass-guitars-for-every-budget\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/best-bass-guitars-for-every-budget\">bass guitar<\/a> in anger.<\/p>\n<p>As one of LA&#8217;s top session players during the 60s, Kaye was a favourite among producers like Phil Spector and Lou Adler, while <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/carol-kaye-on-quincy-jones-hikky-burr\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/carol-kaye-on-quincy-jones-hikky-burr\">Quincy Jones<\/a> wouldn\u2019t book a film session without her. Jones later wrote in his 2001 autobiography, \u201cThe Fender bass player Carol Kaye could do anything and leave the men in the dust.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Aside from her <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/artists\/bassists\/carol-kaye-greatest-basslines\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/artists\/bassists\/carol-kaye-greatest-basslines\">incredible session career<\/a>, Kaye has also taught a number of noted bassists. Early on in her teaching career, she gave private lessons and worked with beginners before going on to help professional musicians, students who \u201cdon&#8217;t need a lot of lessons to get going.\u201d Past students include <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/artists\/studio-legend-carol-kaye-gives-kiss-gene-simmons-bass-lesson-video\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/artists\/studio-legend-carol-kaye-gives-kiss-gene-simmons-bass-lesson-video\">Gene Simmons<\/a>, and even Sting was full of praise for her education books.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI teach the way people taught music in the &#8217;50s,\u201d Kaye told <em>Bass Player <\/em>back in 2009<em>.<\/em> \u201cEverybody who taught music then had to get people out to play standards and jazz, because that was the music that everybody played.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI teach both men and women, and I do teach them a little differently. Most women are very smart, very sharp. and they get their reading and sense of groove going really good. With men I can always tell when they&#8217;ve had enough, because there&#8217;s a glaze that comes over their eyes.\u201d<\/p>\n<div data-nosnippet>\n<div>\n<p><span>Carol Kaye teaches Gene Simmons &#8211; YouTube<\/span><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/F2zL2Ri7wZg\/maxresdefault.jpg\" alt=\"Carol Kaye teaches Gene Simmons - YouTube\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\" loading=\"lazy\">\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><svg viewBox=\"0 0 234.67 165.33\"><path fill=\"red\" d=\"M229.763 25.817c-2.699-10.162-10.65-18.165-20.748-20.881C190.716 0 117.333 0 117.333 0S43.951 0 25.651 4.936C15.553 7.652 7.6 15.655 4.903 25.817 0 44.236 0 82.667 0 82.667s0 38.429 4.903 56.85C7.6 149.68 15.553 157.681 25.65 160.4c18.3 4.934 91.682 4.934 91.682 4.934s73.383 0 91.682-4.934c10.098-2.718 18.049-10.72 20.748-20.882 4.904-18.421 4.904-56.85 4.904-56.85s0-38.431-4.904-56.85\" \/><path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"m93.333 117.559 61.333-34.89-61.333-34.894z\" \/><\/svg><br \/>\n<a 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player.\u2019 I tell them, don&#8217;t think \u2018woman\u2019: A man isn&#8217;t thinking, I\u2019m a man guitar player or male bass player.\u201d<\/p>\n<div data-hydrate=\"true\" id=\"slice-container-newsletterForm-articleInbodyContent-fDDDFAbsdVwvqf8d8BoKy5\">\n<section>\n<p>All the latest guitar news, interviews, lessons, reviews, deals and more, direct to your inbox!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cRemember, this is not your identity \u2013 this is something you&#8217;re learning, so keep your mind on the music. I never thought of myself as a \u2018woman\u2019 musician at all, but a guitarist and then a bass player.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ironically Kaye began her career as a <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/best-guitars-for-jazz\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/features\/best-guitars-for-jazz\">jazz guitar<\/a> player and got into studio bass playing only when she stood in for a session player who failed to turn up at Capitol Studios in 1963. Kaye went on to inspire many other female bass players from Kathy Valentine of the Go-Go&#8217;s through to Sheryl Crow.<\/p>\n<p>With so many bassists name checking Kaye as a huge influence, are there any female bass players that she looked up to?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere were tons of great women jazz musicians in the 40s and 50s of which the general public and even a lot of musicians are not aware of today. The men back then respected them too and women played with the men constantly; it was not a rarity. I always emulated the men as they played what I wanted to play. The women were great, but I had different ideas.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure data-bordeaux-image-check>\n<div>\n<p><picture><source type=\"image\/webp\"  ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/pms2vZjNfVXRZDyatz86TJ.jpg\" alt=\"Carol Kaye and Bill Pittman playing guitar in a Los Angeles recording studio, early 1960's.\"   loading=\"lazy\" data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/pms2vZjNfVXRZDyatz86TJ.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net\/pms2vZjNfVXRZDyatz86TJ.jpg\"><\/picture><\/p>\n<\/div><figcaption itemprop=\"caption description\"><span itemprop=\"copyrightHolder\">(Image credit: Photo by GAB Archive\/Redferns)<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Kaye must be sick to death by now of journalists asking her about being the \u2018First Lady\u2019 of bass playing, but is she hopeful that other women can make a similar impact on the bass world?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey&#8217;re doing it already! There&#8217;s many women who have emulated me like Kathy Valentine of the Go-Go&#8217;s. Sheryl Crow and even Whoopi Goldberg studied out of my books and gave me credit for their success. I also taught jazz improvisation to Alison Prestwood who is a top studio bassist in Nashville.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, we\u2019re keen to hear what crucial pieces of advice Kaye would offer to budding female bassists looking to follow in her footsteps.<\/p>\n<div data-nosnippet>\n<p><iframe data-lazy-priority=\"low\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gyQqrPWnRPU\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cI don&#8217;t expect people to \u2018follow in my footsteps\u2019 although that is flattering. I expect everyone to develop their own talents and their own abilities by studying well and practising.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMen who attack female players are usually scared to death of women getting good enough to take jobs away from them. Most of the men who attack seem to do it on the Internet and probably don&#8217;t even play, but have a bone to pick with their mother, their ex-wives or whatever as long as they&#8217;re female. How to handle it? Don&#8217;t answer them. Don&#8217;t cast pearls before swine is my answer.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeing a good musician speaks it all, not copping out to childish viewpoints like, \u2018Men don&#8217;t like me because I&#8217;m a woman.\u2019 Women have been successful in the music world for a hundred years. It&#8217;s time to grow up and take the reins!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"slice-container-authorBio-fDDDFAbsdVwvqf8d8BoKy5\">\n<p>Nick Wells was the Editor of Bass Guitar magazine from 2009 to 2011, before making strides into the world of Artist Relations with Sheldon Dingwall and Dingwall Guitars. He&#8217;s also the producer of bass-centric documentaries, Walking the Changes and Beneath the Bassline, as well as Production Manager and Artist Liaison for ScottsBassLessons. In his free time, you&#8217;ll find him jumping around his bedroom to Kool &#038; The Gang while hammering the life out of his P-Bass.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<p> Laine Schildgen<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarworld.com\/artists\/bassists\/carol-kaye-on-teaching-women\" class=\"button purchase\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Image credit: Getty Images) When is a bass player not a bass player? When she&#8217;s a \u2018female bass player\u2019, a term which makes great bassists like Tina Weymouth, Melissa Auf Der Maur, Kim Deal, Kim Gordon, Gail Ann Dorsey, and recent Rock &amp; Roll Hall of Fame inductee Carol Kaye roll their eyes in despair.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":853172,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[134660,2674],"tags":[6173,11322],"class_list":["post-853171","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-keep","category-musician","tag-keep","tag-musician"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/853171","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=853171"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/853171\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/853172"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=853171"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=853171"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=853171"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}