{"id":622148,"date":"2023-03-26T09:50:15","date_gmt":"2023-03-26T14:50:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.sellorbuyhomefast.com\/index.php\/2023\/03\/26\/3-winners-and-3-losers-from-congresss-tiktok-hearing\/"},"modified":"2023-03-26T09:50:15","modified_gmt":"2023-03-26T14:50:15","slug":"3-winners-and-3-losers-from-congresss-tiktok-hearing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newsycanuse.com\/index.php\/2023\/03\/26\/3-winners-and-3-losers-from-congresss-tiktok-hearing\/","title":{"rendered":"3 winners and 3 losers from Congress\u2019s TikTok hearing"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p id=\"CC6NHA\">The House Energy and Commerce Committee\u2019s much-hyped hearing on TikTok, featuring CEO Shou Chew, took place Thursday without many fireworks. But over the course of five hours, lawmakers grilled Chew not only about TikTok\u2019s or his own links to China, but also issues that are common across all social media platforms, like the promotion of harmful content and the immense amount of data they collect about their users.<\/p>\n<p id=\"flJocE\">Members of the committee were almost uniformly critical of TikTok, but many \u2014 though not all \u2014 eschewed the grandstanding that has become more common at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/recode\/2020\/7\/29\/21347128\/big-tech-antitrust-hearing-facebook-zuckerberg-amazon-bezos-apple-cook-google-pichai\">high-profile hearings<\/a> like this. Instead, they asked Chew things that they actually seemed to want answers to.<\/p>\n<p id=\"gk2RIR\">This was Chew\u2019s first appearance before Congress, and he\u2019s generally kept a low profile in the United States until fairly recently. So aside from the polished and infrequent videos Chew has posted on TikTok itself, the hearing was the first time many Americans got to see the company\u2019s public face. While the hearing was never going to make or break TikTok, if Chew really blew it, his app\u2019s future in the US could be that much cloudier. And while he was at times evasive and seemed unprepared for some questions that he must have known would be asked, Chew\u2019s big day on Capitol Hill wasn\u2019t a total disaster. His performance probably won\u2019t change anyone\u2019s mind, either.<\/p>\n<p id=\"9sSmXG\">Thursday\u2019s hearing was also Congress\u2019s chance to make the case to the American people that the app is a national security threat that can only be addressed by a ban. That allegation comes from the potential for the Chinese government to obtain the data of TikTok\u2019s 150 million US users or influence its recommendation algorithms to push propaganda or disinformation on them. Yet that allegation has been backed up by very little public evidence that such things are happening, and so the unprecedented move of banning an app based on that allegation has seemed extreme and possibly unnecessary.<\/p>\n<p id=\"PcBPN6\">But again, many members of the committee focused their questions not on national security but rather on potentially harmful content that TikTok pushes on children and the potential impact that can have on them. It is certainly true that TikTok is favored by younger users, and the app also has a recommendation algorithm that has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/recode\/2023\/2\/2\/23582202\/tiktok-headquarters-press-accountability-ban-trump\">been characterized as more powerful and elusive<\/a> than its American counterparts. But children\u2019s safety issues <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/recode\/2023\/2\/15\/23599879\/congress-children-safety-online-big-tech\">aren\u2019t unique to TikTok<\/a> \u2014 something many members of Congress also acknowledged \u2014 and they also aren\u2019t exactly a national security threat. <\/p>\n<p id=\"K3Vj88\">At times, the hearing was more about making the case for regulations about social media and children in general than it was about the national security threat posed by one app. And, like opposition to TikTok specifically, there\u2019s a lot of bipartisan agreement that such industry-wide laws are needed. If anything comes out of this hearing, it may be those. <\/p>\n<p id=\"CJWZVL\">While a lot of questions remained unanswered \u2014 and some, arguably, went unasked \u2014 there were a few winners and losers.<\/p>\n<h3 id=\"T1hyWY\">Winner: The case for children\u2019s online safety laws<\/h3>\n<p id=\"40GE7s\">If you thought this hearing was just going to be about TikTok\u2019s links to China, you were wrong. Members of the committee also interrogated Chew about algorithms that push content about suicide, drugs, and eating disorders on a vulnerable audience \u2014 all the while collecting data about them to make money. TikTok challenges, most especially the \u201cblackout challenge\u201d that has allegedly caused <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2022\/7\/7\/23199058\/tiktok-lawsuits-blackout-challenge-children-death\">several deaths<\/a>, also got several mentions (not mentioned: Meta\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/technology\/2022\/03\/30\/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory\/\">alleged role<\/a> in spreading them). Multiple suicide-related videos that were sourced from TikTok were used as one Congress member\u2019s visual aid, though one of those videos was a clip from Hulu\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/the-bear-fx-hulu-series-review.html\"><em>The Bear<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p id=\"ABF3ZT\">The fact is, these are not TikTok-only problems, which Congress knows and the committee acknowledged in the hearing. Many members used the hearing to call for children\u2019s online safety laws that would apply to all social media platforms. That\u2019s not a coincidence. While Congress has had trouble coming together on how, why, and even if it should rein in Big Tech when it comes to privacy, antitrust, and Section 230, there is a significant <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/recode\/2022\/3\/14\/22971618\/earn-it-sesta-fosta-children-safety-internet-laws\">bipartisan and bicameral<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/recode\/2023\/2\/15\/23599879\/congress-children-safety-online-big-tech\">consensus<\/a> that something should be done to protect kids. This hearing won\u2019t be the last thing you hear about it. \u2014<em>Sara Morrison<\/em><\/p>\n<h3 id=\"PvJzYE\">Loser: Shou Chew<\/h3>\n<p id=\"oG3uYO\">Before the committee had even taken its first break, the scene in the hearing room had started to feel like the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU\">Simpsons parking lot fight meme<\/a>. You know, the one where Homer (dressed up as Krusty the Clown), beats up an actor playing a thief as kids cry \u201cstop, stop, he\u2019s already dead!\u201d Members of Congress showed TikTok\u2019s CEO no mercy with their lines of questioning, lecturing, and clips of dangerous content found on the app. You could argue that Chew never stood a chance. <\/p>\n<figure>\n  <span><\/p>\n<p>    <span data-original=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/24531843\/1475626814.jpg\"><\/p>\n<picture data-cid=\"site\/picture_element-1679839542_9556_83345\" data-cdata=\"{\"asset_id\":24531843,\"ratio\":\"*\"}\"><source   type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\"   alt=\"TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew looks up at the ceiling of a committee hearing room. He is wearing a white dress shirt, light blue tie, and navy blue suit.\" data-upload-width=\"5835\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/thumbor\/H-AP80L_fXyof79KJVvZLVCyQzk=\/0x0:5835x3890\/1200x0\/filters:focal(0x0:5835x3890):no_upscale()\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/24531843\/1475626814.jpg\"><\/p>\n<\/picture>\n<p>    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p>    <span><figcaption>TikTok CEO Shou Chew before he testified to the House Energy and Commerce Committee on the social media app, it\u2019s relationship with its Chinese owner ByteDance, and its handling of user data.<\/figcaption><cite>Chip Somodevilla\/Getty Images<\/cite><\/p>\n<p>    <\/span><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p id=\"UqgLSw\">Chew had set himself up for failure before entering the room: A few days before appearing on Capitol Hill, Chew posted <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@tiktok\/video\/7212953186724842795\">a video to TikTok<\/a> announcing a landmark 150 million Americans, or nearly half of all US citizens, now use TikTok every month. Then, in his opening statement, Chew made the case that the app was thoroughly enmeshed in American culture, arguing that it provides a platform for more free speech and expression, for businesses to grow, and for short videos to enrich American life.<\/p>\n<p id=\"8cL8yP\">The only problem with this defense of TikTok is that these American lawmakers don\u2019t think all of this amounts to a good thing. They\u2019re convinced TikTok is a danger, and are concerned precisely with how enmeshed in Americans\u2019 lives the app really is. Chew just proved their point.<\/p>\n<p id=\"CiZo6Q\">Chew also, generally, seemed unready for how many questions he would get about TikTok\u2019s internal processes, its ties to the Chinese government and Communist Party, and how data is used. \u2014<em>Christian Paz<\/em><\/p>\n<h3 id=\"dGEKFg\">Winner: Rep. Jay Obernolte<\/h3>\n<p id=\"rT4FBs\">It\u2019s no surprise when members of Congress, who are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/policy-and-politics\/2018\/4\/10\/17222062\/mark-zuckerberg-testimony-graham-facebook-regulations\">famously<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/07\/17\/business\/media\/17stevens.html\">out of touch<\/a> when it comes to how the internet works, barely seem to understand some of the technical questions they\u2019re asking, let alone the answers. At least three different representatives in the hearing called the app \u201cTic Tac,\u201d which is a breath mint. But Jay Obernolte, the Republican from California who has an <a href=\"https:\/\/obernolte.house.gov\/issues\/technology\">actual background<\/a> in computer engineering, development, and artificial intelligence, peppered Chew with questions about the logistics of Project Texas and how it would be possible, technically, for it to give enough transparency into TikTok\u2019s inner workings to mitigate national security concerns. Because of this, when Obernolte came to the conclusion that he didn\u2019t think Project Texas would work, he was believable. \u2014<em>SM <\/em><\/p>\n<h3 id=\"IIWkEM\">Loser: Project Texas<\/h3>\n<p id=\"sbjjXM\">Project Texas is TikTok\u2019s $1.5 billion attempt to be allowed to continue to operate in the US. The effort intends to mitigate national security concerns as much as possible by keeping all US user data in the country\u2019s borders on servers owned by an American company, Oracle. There would also be some third-party oversight on both the access to data and algorithmic recommendations. At one point, it seemed the Biden administration, through the interagency Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States, would finalize this agreement. But it didn\u2019t, and it seems neither Congress nor TikTok has much faith in its future. There were a few notable exceptions, but by and large Congress didn\u2019t seem particularly interested in Project Texas, except to push Chew on why it wouldn\u2019t be enough. <\/p>\n<p id=\"iUQqT6\">For his part, Chew gamely tried to defend what the company once saw as the key to TikTok\u2019s future in America when given the rare opportunity, saying, \u201cI haven\u2019t heard a good reason why it doesn\u2019t work,\u201d toward the end of the session. \u2014<em>SM<\/em><\/p>\n<figure>\n  <span><\/p>\n<p>    <span data-original=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/24531857\/1249135577.jpg\"><\/p>\n<picture data-cid=\"site\/picture_element-1679839542_4345_83346\" data-cdata=\"{\"asset_id\":24531857,\"ratio\":\"*\"}\"><source   type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\"   alt data-upload-width=\"6000\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/thumbor\/vtpVtlTRxB6tw8nxsMKhrGSXyfk=\/0x0:6000x4000\/1200x0\/filters:focal(0x0:6000x4000):no_upscale()\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/uploads\/chorus_asset\/file\/24531857\/1249135577.jpg\"><\/p>\n<\/picture>\n<p>    <\/span><\/p>\n<p>  <\/span><\/p>\n<p>    <span><figcaption>Rep. Jay Obernolte of California, who has a background in engineering, demonstrated an above-average understanding of how TikTok might work, and peppered Shou Chew with questions.<\/figcaption><cite>Al Drago\/Bloomberg via Getty Images<\/cite><\/p>\n<p>    <\/span><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<h3 id=\"SK72QE\">Loser: TikTok\u2019s transparency<\/h3>\n<p id=\"IycML5\">Almost every time members of Congress asked a specific question about how TikTok works, how much money it is making, or the ties between TikTok, its Chinese parent company, and the Chinese government, Chew would give a similar reply: That\u2019s private company information that it does not have to disclose. In other instances, he deflected by simply saying he\u2019d check with his team and \u201cget back to you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"Qn7HvC\">Rep. Tony Cardenas (D-CA), summed up the frustration in the room when he remarked on how his questions weren\u2019t seeking out \u201ctrade secrets.\u201d \u201cYou remind me a lot of Mike [sic] Zuckerberg,\u201d  Cardenas said. \u201cWhen he came here, I said to my staff, \u2018He reminds me of Fred Astaire: a good dancer with words.\u2019 And you are doing the same today. A lot of your answers are a bit nebulous. They are not a yes or no answer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"Esfawl\">Republican and Democratic members frequently reacted the same way to Chew\u2019s opaque answers. Rep. Angie Craig (D-MN) tied together an answer from Chew, in which he declined to state how he was paid, to the problem of TikTok being foreign-owned: \u201cIf you were an American company &#8230; we could see who your shareholders are. The answer you provided earlier today \u2014 you would \u2018rather not tell us what your compensation is or how it is derived\u2019 \u2014 no American CEO would like to tell us that. But they have to.\u201d And she tied his ambivalent answers to why Congress doesn\u2019t buy the Project Texas defense: \u201cHow can you say that you are protecting American users\u2019 privacy with the CCP being so heavily involved with ByteDance? It\u2019s not possible.\u201d <\/p>\n<p id=\"rtBqnn\">Chew didn\u2019t help his case for transparency when he stumbled on simple questions, like whether TikTok is a Chinese company or if TikTok supports genocide. \u2014<em>CP<\/em><\/p>\n<h3 id=\"iPfIwJ\">Winner: Bipartisanship and good old-fashioned civility<\/h3>\n<p id=\"ncMWbf\">Shou Chew did something rare in today\u2019s Congress: He united Democrats and Republicans on the Energy and Commerce committee in a bipartisan condemnation of TikTok. <\/p>\n<p id=\"HeeV1E\">From the start of the hearing, this consensus was evident: \u201cLet me say that I agree with much of what you just said,\u201d Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ), the ranking member on the committee, said in response to the Republican committee chair\u2019s opening statement. Two hours later, Rep. Buddy Carter (R-GA) made light of the grilling Chew had been enduring: \u201cWelcome to the most bipartisan committee in Congress. We may not always agree on how to get there, but we care about our national security, we care about our economy, and we sure as heck care about our children.\u201d And later, when Cardenas took a break after asking about how much investment TikTok was planning to make in moderating Spanish-language content, disinformation, and deadly or dangerous content, he chided Chew: \u201cIt might sound a little funny, but you have in fact been one of the few people to unite this committee \u2014 members, Republicans and Democrats \u2014 to be in agreement that we are frustrated with TikTok. We are upset with TikTok.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"w4YGyW\">That same sentiment continued to pop up throughout the more than four hours of questioning and points to the larger problem TikTok has: It doesn\u2019t have the active support of anything close to a significant number of members of Congress, and it is in a convenient position for members to show their tough-on-China credentials. \u2014<em>CP<\/em><\/p>\n<div data-cid=\"site\/article_footer-1679839542_2726_83347\" data-cdata=\"{\"base_type\":\"Entry\",\"id\":23417925,\"timestamp\":1679605806,\"published_timestamp\":1679605806,\"show_published_and_updated_timestamps\":false,\"title\":\"3 winners and 3 losers from Congress\u2019s TikTok hearing\",\"type\":\"Article\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/technology\/23653884\/tiktok-hearing-shou-chew-winners-losers\",\"entry_layout\":{\"key\":\"unison_standard\",\"layout\":\"unison_main\",\"template\":\"standard\"},\"additional_byline\":null,\"authors\":[{\"id\":5948099,\"name\":\"Sara Morrison\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.vox.com\/authors\/sara-morrison\",\"twitter_handle\":\"\",\"profile_image_url\":\"https:\/\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/thumbor\/7F4rVTNsxP6qsTST8DzayFm1VvA=\/512x512\/cdn.vox-cdn.com\/author_profile_images\/193904\/morrison.0.jpeg\",\"title\":\"\",\"email\":\"<span \n                data-original-string='NHa9egxTSJmfr5rDv\/CXOA==7f4nRBwfWVilbD1CCb0bbwcYg=='\n                class='apbct-email-encoder'\n                title='This contact has been encoded by Anti-Spam by CleanTalk. 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